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		<title>By: Regina</title>
		<link>http://www.quantumdiaries.org/2010/05/26/exciting-new-physics-from-the-tevatron/#comment-4523</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@humble reader: Aaah let the debate begin! This is one of the most exciting aspects of science... having to back up your claim. I knew CDF would have an opinion about the D0 result. Thanks for posting the updates. 

Also Thanks Flip for some good theoretical perspective. And healthy skepticism is always appreciated :)

Cheers, 
Regina]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@humble reader: Aaah let the debate begin! This is one of the most exciting aspects of science&#8230; having to back up your claim. I knew CDF would have an opinion about the D0 result. Thanks for posting the updates. </p>
<p>Also Thanks Flip for some good theoretical perspective. And healthy skepticism is always appreciated <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Regina</p>
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		<title>By: Flip Tanedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flip Tanedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 03:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone -- a few thoughts:

CP observables, such as D0&#039;s semileptonic asymmetry result, provide a chance to indirectly observe new physics. Unfortunately, while these observables are great channels for looking for deviations from the Standard Model, they are not very good at discriminating between possible new models. In other words, they&#039;re great for identifying that there should be new physics, but it&#039;s much more difficult to extract details about the nature of the new physics.

Also, I should remark that this result should be taken with a grain of salt. In addition from the CDF null results mentioned above, the D0 results seem a bit fishy since the deviation from the Standard Model is *too* large when taken at face value. These kinds of observables are well-constrained by self-consistency conditions, and the D0 mean value for this observable takes a bit of work to make it consistent. For more details for experts, see, e.g. the first section of [1005.4238]. So while the signal may indeed be 3 sigma, one should also have some healthy skepticism that there might be a systematic effect. (I&#039;m *not* an expert on the experimental side, so don&#039;t this as anything other than naive, uninformed speculation.)

Cheers,
Flip]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone &#8212; a few thoughts:</p>
<p>CP observables, such as D0&#8242;s semileptonic asymmetry result, provide a chance to indirectly observe new physics. Unfortunately, while these observables are great channels for looking for deviations from the Standard Model, they are not very good at discriminating between possible new models. In other words, they&#8217;re great for identifying that there should be new physics, but it&#8217;s much more difficult to extract details about the nature of the new physics.</p>
<p>Also, I should remark that this result should be taken with a grain of salt. In addition from the CDF null results mentioned above, the D0 results seem a bit fishy since the deviation from the Standard Model is *too* large when taken at face value. These kinds of observables are well-constrained by self-consistency conditions, and the D0 mean value for this observable takes a bit of work to make it consistent. For more details for experts, see, e.g. the first section of [1005.4238]. So while the signal may indeed be 3 sigma, one should also have some healthy skepticism that there might be a systematic effect. (I&#8217;m *not* an expert on the experimental side, so don&#8217;t this as anything other than naive, uninformed speculation.)</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Flip</p>
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		<title>By: humble reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>humble reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 10:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be some updates to this result.
http://resonaances.blogspot.com/2010/05/cdf-says-calm-down-everybody.html
http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/05/cdf-refutes-d0-claim-about-cp-violation.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be some updates to this result.<br />
<a href="http://resonaances.blogspot.com/2010/05/cdf-says-calm-down-everybody.html" rel="nofollow">http://resonaances.blogspot.com/2010/05/cdf-says-calm-down-everybody.html</a><br />
<a href="http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/05/cdf-refutes-d0-claim-about-cp-violation.html" rel="nofollow">http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/05/cdf-refutes-d0-claim-about-cp-violation.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 06:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Paolo- Good question! Off the top of my head, I&#039;m not sure. Flip would be a good guy to ask for implications of a high muon charge asymmetry - him being a theorist and all. 

@TimG - You&#039;re totally right. Thanks for the catch! I was trying to say they had either a b or anti-b (its antiparticle partner) but it didn&#039;t come out right :)

@Mark - will do... maybe that will be my next post :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paolo- Good question! Off the top of my head, I&#8217;m not sure. Flip would be a good guy to ask for implications of a high muon charge asymmetry &#8211; him being a theorist and all. </p>
<p>@TimG &#8211; You&#8217;re totally right. Thanks for the catch! I was trying to say they had either a b or anti-b (its antiparticle partner) but it didn&#8217;t come out right <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Mark &#8211; will do&#8230; maybe that will be my next post <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 14:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B mesons (quark-antiquark b pairs) oscillate between themselves and their antiparticles (Something I’m happy to elaborate on if anyone is interested). 

Please do so :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B mesons (quark-antiquark b pairs) oscillate between themselves and their antiparticles (Something I’m happy to elaborate on if anyone is interested). </p>
<p>Please do so <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TimG</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 13:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you sure the mesons in question are b - anti-b pairs?  I think I&#039;ve read elsewhere that they&#039;re b - anti-s or b -anti-d.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure the mesons in question are b &#8211; anti-b pairs?  I think I&#8217;ve read elsewhere that they&#8217;re b &#8211; anti-s or b -anti-d.</p>
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		<title>By: Paolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 10:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi there, i&#039;m interested. 
Assuming it turns out to be discovery what are current expectations about model that would fit best?, Fourth family of quarks? 
regards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi there, i&#8217;m interested.<br />
Assuming it turns out to be discovery what are current expectations about model that would fit best?, Fourth family of quarks?<br />
regards</p>
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