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		<title>By: Flip Tanedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flip Tanedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rene. Thanks for pointing out the error, you&#039;re indeed correct. (I&#039;ll try to get around to changing this, but it might end up falling through the cracks since things are hectic at the moment.) The star means antiparticle; I admit the naming scheme is a little inelegant. There is something called the &quot;dR-bar&quot; which has the charge of an anti-down quark. It is right-handed. The starred version is a particle with the charge of a down quark that is left handed. This thing is different from dL. The diagram shows that the dL and the dR-bar* mix between themselves. 

I apologize that the posts are too disconnected---the original post has something of a table of contents to help unify everything. Also, if you might want to refer to my lecture notes which I based on these blog posts: http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~pt267/undergradparticles.html

Otherwise, I&#039;m doing the best that I can to contribute to the blog while doing research full time. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rene. Thanks for pointing out the error, you&#8217;re indeed correct. (I&#8217;ll try to get around to changing this, but it might end up falling through the cracks since things are hectic at the moment.) The star means antiparticle; I admit the naming scheme is a little inelegant. There is something called the &#8220;dR-bar&#8221; which has the charge of an anti-down quark. It is right-handed. The starred version is a particle with the charge of a down quark that is left handed. This thing is different from dL. The diagram shows that the dL and the dR-bar* mix between themselves. </p>
<p>I apologize that the posts are too disconnected&#8212;the original post has something of a table of contents to help unify everything. Also, if you might want to refer to my lecture notes which I based on these blog posts: <a href="http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~pt267/undergradparticles.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~pt267/undergradparticles.html</a></p>
<p>Otherwise, I&#8217;m doing the best that I can to contribute to the blog while doing research full time. <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rene Kail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene Kail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thx for the interesting posts on Particle Physics. However, the posts are too much disconnected, so you cannot always find what you are searching for.

In the illustration for the down quark u_L should be replaced by d_L.
What does the asterisk * mean in the antiquark representation?
Some more detailed description of this subject would be welcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx for the interesting posts on Particle Physics. However, the posts are too much disconnected, so you cannot always find what you are searching for.</p>
<p>In the illustration for the down quark u_L should be replaced by d_L.<br />
What does the asterisk * mean in the antiquark representation?<br />
Some more detailed description of this subject would be welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Flip Tanedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flip Tanedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Harry, absolutely right. I&#039;ll try to fix that later on... but if not then it&#039;ll be my badge of shame for this post. :-) Thanks! -F]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Harry, absolutely right. I&#8217;ll try to fix that later on&#8230; but if not then it&#8217;ll be my badge of shame for this post. <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks! -F</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doh! I believe the component in the figure should be d_L]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doh! I believe the component in the figure should be d_L</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Flip,

I am very impressed with your blog - keep up the good work. 

I believe you have a typo (or the equivalent for a figure) - your down quark appears to have a component of a u_L (rather than d_R).

Best wishes,
Harry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Flip,</p>
<p>I am very impressed with your blog &#8211; keep up the good work. </p>
<p>I believe you have a typo (or the equivalent for a figure) &#8211; your down quark appears to have a component of a u_L (rather than d_R).</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Harry</p>
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		<title>By: Flip Tanedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flip Tanedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Adrian--good point! Let me make an appeal that these pictures are just cartoons and aren&#039;t meant to convey any technical detail. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adrian&#8211;good point! Let me make an appeal that these pictures are just cartoons and aren&#8217;t meant to convey any technical detail. <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adrian the Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian the Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve drawn the photon so it appears to have more W3 content that B.  Shouldn&#039;t that be the other way round?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve drawn the photon so it appears to have more W3 content that B.  Shouldn&#8217;t that be the other way round?</p>
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		<title>By: Flip Tanedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flip Tanedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Wouter---these cartoons of the &#039;chiral fermions&#039; can get tricky because it&#039;s easy to interpret them in the opposite way... and at the end of the day they are just cartoons. :-) I drew the things spinning in the same direction because I didn&#039;t want to make it look like angular momentum is being violated... but I think the bottom line is that the cartoon picture is heuristic with respect to those details. :-)

Now for the gluons: indeed, 3*3 = 9, so there&#039;s some quark--antiquark pair which does not couple to gluons. It turns out to be the quantum superposition: (red-antired + blue-antiblue + green-antigreen). The reason for this somewhat technical: the matrix of gluon couplings is traceless---this is sort of the &quot;minimal&quot; color structure for a force. In other words, I could have written a theory that has 9 generators, but such a theory is overkill to describe what we know about the strong force.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wouter&#8212;these cartoons of the &#8216;chiral fermions&#8217; can get tricky because it&#8217;s easy to interpret them in the opposite way&#8230; and at the end of the day they are just cartoons. <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I drew the things spinning in the same direction because I didn&#8217;t want to make it look like angular momentum is being violated&#8230; but I think the bottom line is that the cartoon picture is heuristic with respect to those details. <img src='http://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now for the gluons: indeed, 3*3 = 9, so there&#8217;s some quark&#8211;antiquark pair which does not couple to gluons. It turns out to be the quantum superposition: (red-antired + blue-antiblue + green-antigreen). The reason for this somewhat technical: the matrix of gluon couplings is traceless&#8212;this is sort of the &#8220;minimal&#8221; color structure for a force. In other words, I could have written a theory that has 9 generators, but such a theory is overkill to describe what we know about the strong force.</p>
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		<title>By: Wouter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wouter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flip,
cool, but shouldn&#039;t your &quot;right-handed anti-positron&quot; in the first pic, the green one with moustache, be either rotating the other way (or be pointing backward)?
And, for the gluon calculus 3*3=8, maybe a hint as to where the ninth combination goes? I would have expected not 8 but 10 (includinhg some trivial identity do-nothing non-mediation).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flip,<br />
cool, but shouldn&#8217;t your &#8220;right-handed anti-positron&#8221; in the first pic, the green one with moustache, be either rotating the other way (or be pointing backward)?<br />
And, for the gluon calculus 3*3=8, maybe a hint as to where the ninth combination goes? I would have expected not 8 but 10 (includinhg some trivial identity do-nothing non-mediation).</p>
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		<title>By: Flip Tanedo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flip Tanedo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Amir, great questions. 

1. The polarizations refer to spin angular momentum. For a gauge boson (&quot;vector&quot; particle) with quantum spin 1, these spin angular momentum states correspond to the &quot;polarizations&quot; that you&#039;re used to for light---though now I refer to individual quanta rather than a classical wave (e.g. a photon versus a beam of light). You can in principle measure this polarization by measuring the angular momentum of the system, though experimentally this can be tricky. (I think the other bloggers may have a much better answer to this than me!)

2. The portions of the W3 and B in the Z and the photon come in proportions that are dictated by the relative strength of their couplings. Before &quot;electroweak symmetry breaking&quot; (and you don&#039;t need to worry about the details of what that term means), there are two distinct forces: the W force and the B force. After &quot;electroweak symmetry breaking&quot; the W and B forces mix up into the weak force (mediated by the W and Z) and electromagnetism (mediated by the photon). 

The W and B forces have different couplings: for example, the W only talks to left-handed matter particles with some coupling strength determined by an overall number and some &quot;group theoretical&quot; factors. The B will talk to both left- and right-handed matter particles but with different coupling strengths. The Higgs talks to both the W and B, and when the Higgs obtains a &quot;vacuum expectation value&quot; (i.e. when &quot;electroweak symmetry breaking&quot; occurs), it mixes up the W and B according to its coupling strength to each. 

So yes, there is a nice expression for the portion of W3 and B in the Z boson written in terms of the coupling strengths, and a nice explanation for where this expression comes from. This is another aspect that you would not have seen without writing down the &quot;full&quot; Standard Model instead of the &quot;toy&quot; version at the top of the post. 

Great questions!
F]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amir, great questions. </p>
<p>1. The polarizations refer to spin angular momentum. For a gauge boson (&#8220;vector&#8221; particle) with quantum spin 1, these spin angular momentum states correspond to the &#8220;polarizations&#8221; that you&#8217;re used to for light&#8212;though now I refer to individual quanta rather than a classical wave (e.g. a photon versus a beam of light). You can in principle measure this polarization by measuring the angular momentum of the system, though experimentally this can be tricky. (I think the other bloggers may have a much better answer to this than me!)</p>
<p>2. The portions of the W3 and B in the Z and the photon come in proportions that are dictated by the relative strength of their couplings. Before &#8220;electroweak symmetry breaking&#8221; (and you don&#8217;t need to worry about the details of what that term means), there are two distinct forces: the W force and the B force. After &#8220;electroweak symmetry breaking&#8221; the W and B forces mix up into the weak force (mediated by the W and Z) and electromagnetism (mediated by the photon). </p>
<p>The W and B forces have different couplings: for example, the W only talks to left-handed matter particles with some coupling strength determined by an overall number and some &#8220;group theoretical&#8221; factors. The B will talk to both left- and right-handed matter particles but with different coupling strengths. The Higgs talks to both the W and B, and when the Higgs obtains a &#8220;vacuum expectation value&#8221; (i.e. when &#8220;electroweak symmetry breaking&#8221; occurs), it mixes up the W and B according to its coupling strength to each. </p>
<p>So yes, there is a nice expression for the portion of W3 and B in the Z boson written in terms of the coupling strengths, and a nice explanation for where this expression comes from. This is another aspect that you would not have seen without writing down the &#8220;full&#8221; Standard Model instead of the &#8220;toy&#8221; version at the top of the post. </p>
<p>Great questions!<br />
F</p>
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		<title>By: Amir Livne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir Livne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello. I have 2 layman questions - I don&#039;t know QFT at all, so sorry in advance if I totally missed the mark.

1. Why are the degrees of freedom of the W called polarisations? Can you actually build an experimental stage that acts as a polariser, or is it just an analogy for something else?

2. Do the portions of W3 and B shared in the Z boson and in the photon come in nice portions, like a small reduced fraction? Or is it a constant that should be explained with a deeper theory?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello. I have 2 layman questions &#8211; I don&#8217;t know QFT at all, so sorry in advance if I totally missed the mark.</p>
<p>1. Why are the degrees of freedom of the W called polarisations? Can you actually build an experimental stage that acts as a polariser, or is it just an analogy for something else?</p>
<p>2. Do the portions of W3 and B shared in the Z boson and in the photon come in nice portions, like a small reduced fraction? Or is it a constant that should be explained with a deeper theory?</p>
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